JandJ Alpaca's Blog

JandJ Nettle

2011-11-22T10:55:00.004Z

On Friday 24th June we had 2 births. The first one was Nettle, this is her nickname as at the moment she doesn't have a real one.

Her mother QAI Claire came into the country with her mum Drew Barrymore as a cria born in transit. Claire is the most beautiful alpaca, very gentle & calm just like her mum. Leo was Claire's first cria & he is a large gentle alpaca now living with Kim, Steve & Jo. Her next 2 cria were not so lucky & we lost both Chance & Enchanted before they were 4 months old, both of whom were stunning.

So this little girl, prettiest little cria we have, is very special & we really want her to live. We watched her being born & then left her & Claire alone to bond, I went back to the field an hour later to check on them & couldn't find Nettle anywhere. She had managed to sit down in a clump of nettles at the side of the field shelter & I got stung getting her out, so Nettle is her name for now. She is the only alpaca not registered & has to be by Christmas Eve at the latest, so fingers crossed we will be able to give her a very special name but to us I think she will always be Nettle.

JandJ Golden Wonder

2011-11-22T10:45:00.004Z

Golden Wonder was the next cria born on 20th June. His mum is Mississippi Moonlight one of our original 4 alpacas & he is brother to Hope, Destiny & Dream. Golden was an amazing colour when he was born, really golden, hence his name & as he has got older it has gone slightly lighter.

Open Afternoons

2011-10-18T08:24:00.003+01:00

Our 2 Open Afternoons were brilliant. We really enjoyed showing our alpacas to everyone who came to see them. Normally when we are out & about talking about the alpacas we are at shows or events & only have a few aged about 1 or 2 so it was lovely to show off the cria (babies) with their mums, Friday is now nearly 6 months old & Freya the youngest 2 months. I hope everyone who came found the afternoons interesting.

If you couldn't make the dates we opened, we are going to have another open day in the Spring. We are always happy for anyone interested in owing alpacas to ring for an appointment to come & see them.

Yorkshire Alpaca Show at Thirsk

2011-10-16T10:35:00.008+01:00

JandJ Hope

We had a fabulous day at Thirsk yesterday. Very early start but it was worth it. We took 6 alpacas & came home with 5 rosettes and a sash. James was one of the penning stewards & we took some of our products to sell as we are members of the Yorkshire Alpaca Group.

It was the first time we had entered any girls this year & we decided to take Hope, Peace & Ruby Tuesday & our boys who we have shown before this year Kitt, Frazer & Diesel.

The stewards decided that Peace should be moved from the brown class to the black class. This meant that in the first class of the day, the intermediate female black huacaya class, Hope was the first alpaca into the ring & Peace was 5 alpacas behind her. Hope was given a 2nd Rosette and Peace a 5th. As the 1st & 2nd of each class go forward to the Championship for Champion Black Female Huacaya Hope was in the ring again & this time came away with a Reserve Champion Black Female Huacaya sash. We are so pleased with this, as it is our first sash & Hope is the daughter of Mississsippi Moonlight one of our original 4 alpacas.

Ruby Tuesday was next in the ring in a large class of fawn girls & unfortunately did not get a rosette. People wandering round the pens though did really like Ruby the best out of all our alpacas.

Next it was the turn of the boys, Diesel was first as he is black & came out with a 5th Rosette.

Kitt was next, he is a gorgeous beige & the son of my alpaca Skylark, & he came out with a 2nd Rosette.

Frazer was last, our lovely white out of yet another of our original 4, Luminaria who always has gorgeous cria, he was in a large class, the top 6 were pulled forward & Frazer was one of them, then the judge placed them in order & he was moved to 3rd place which he kept and came out with a 3rd rosette.

JandJ Henley

2011-10-14T08:09:00.005+01:00

JandJ Henley at a couple of days old.

Henley is a very handsome alpaca boy. He was born on Friday 14th June at 10.30am. This time we saw the birth. Last year when Ashley his mum had Diesel we were busy in the field with a mating & she managed to deliver him in a dip under the tree without us seeing at all!! Unlike Diesel Henley is fawn like his sisters Thea & Gem. They all have beautiful fleeces, Thea was the best of her year & I think that Henley will be similar. Looking forward to showing him maybe next year, we will have to wait & see.

JandJ Dappy

2011-10-07T21:11:00.004+01:00

JandJ Dappy

2011-10-07T16:43:00.003+01:00

JandJ Dappy was born on 16th June at 11.30am, he had an uncomplicated birth & we watched, he was a nice large cria and up and feeding with the hour, just what we like to see. His mum is Poppy a home grown girl, one of Coco Chanel's daughter's. She is very similar to Coco but a little lighter coloured & prettier, at a distance hard to tell apart. Dappy is gorgeous, he is Poppy's second cria, she had Lucia last year. Dappy is fawn but has Poppy's mid brown on the end of his nose which looks like he has had his nose in the marmalade jar.

JandJ Nayte

2011-10-05T08:48:00.005+01:00

Ella Fitzgerald had Nayte on the 4th of June at 10.30am & we missed the birth as we were showing alpacas at Kenilworth Show. It was a lovely sunny day & we had left Nanny in charge to watched and make sure everything was ok .

Ella is an import & generally does her own thing, apart from shearing, injecting & tow nail clipping, we leave her alone or maybe that's, she leaves us alone. If we are gathering everyone together she & Nayte are at the other end of the field. She is the joint second eldest alpaca we own, 13 this year. Ella always has beautiful cria all black apart from Merlin who is mid fawn & so handsome, Ned we have sold, Nell always first at the fence to see what is happening & to be talked to & now Nayte. We have not seen too much of him as he is always at Ella's side but as he is getting older he is being allowed to come to us a little more.

I wanted his name to begin with an N & like the name Nathaniel (Nathaniel Parker now in Merlin) but needed the name to be shorter so Nayte it is.

JandJ Ralph Lauren

2011-09-13T08:14:00.003+01:00

Our next cria was born 2 days later on 2nd May at 9.10am & like all Paula Rego babies is jet black. With this one I only just missed the birth, I had been watching Paula in the shed & decided to leave her for 10 minutes & when I came back Ralphie was already born. He is gorgeous, very inquisitive, when we take the camera into the field he always comes over & most of the shots are of his head getting closer & closer until there is only his nose in the photo!

JandJ Chastity

2011-09-01T15:11:00.008+01:00

JandJ Chastity
On Tuesday 31 May, the day after half of our herd of alpacas had been sheared Chastity arrived. Her mother Amazing Grace had not been sheared as we do not like to shear our alpacas in their last month of pregnancy. Amazing Grace is Martin's favourite alpaca, when he feeds them Grace always comes over to be fussed. We missed the birth, after the busy long day before we did not look into the field until 7.30am and Chastity was already up and about. Grace likes to have her babies early 9.15am has been the latest but 7.30am is definitely the earliest. This is Grace's 5th cria with us, she has had 3 boys Max, Lex & Rex & then last year we had a girl Chartity and this year Chastity, so our naming strategy for Grace's cria has moved to Emmerdale's Dingle names.

Interested in owning Alpacas - Open Afternoons 9th & 16th October

2011-09-01T15:00:00.006+01:00

We have decided to take the plunge and have 2 open afternoons in October for anyone who is interested in owning an alpaca. In the 6 years we have owned alpacas we have learned such an amazing amount about these beautiful animals & would like to pass this on to anyone else who would like to own them too. Whether it's 2 or 3 little boys in a paddock behind your house or 3 or 4 breeding girls like we started with, life will never be the same, alpacas are so endearing.

JandJ Diamond and her cria JandJ Topaz

2011-08-17T15:26:00.000+01:00

JandJ Topaz

2011-08-15T12:55:00.004+01:00

Our second cria 0f the year was born on Sunday 22 May & we missed the birth but it would have been about 6am. Some mornings when we are waiting for a cria I get up at 6am but that Sunday I didn't :) He is the most beautiful chocolate brown colour & his fleece will make gorgeous scarves if we still own him in April. Topaz is for sale along with his mum JandJ Diamond, all her cria are named after precious stones so we had Sapphire last year who is a gorgeous black. Naming Topaz was difficult as we needed a name to suit a boy and also wanted it to be a brown stone if possible so Topaz it is.

List of Cira for 2011

2011-08-12T16:00:00.009+01:00

As we have now had the last of our cria for this year I thought I would tell you what they are all called in birth order. Friday/Thirteen, Topaz, Chastity, Ralph Lauren, Nayte, Dappy, Henley, Golden Wonder, Delight, Rufus, Cinder, Trudi, McKenna, Flynn, Divine, Marvel, Treasure, Avalon, Enya, Caspian & Freya.

Photo is of some of the mums & sisters.

The first cria of 2011

2011-08-11T18:38:00.004+01:00

I am not very good at blogging as I keep saying so I am now going to try putting mainly photos of my gorgeous alpacas on here. We now own just over 90 of them & adore them all.

My first cria was born on Friday 13th of May & still doesn't have a real name as we can't agree on it. He is either Friday or Thirteen but I have been told that Thirteen is not a name! so he may become Friday. His mum Cosmic Damson gave birth to him at 9.10am & he is jet black just like his big brother Comet & sister Celeste.

Joules, Dillon & Sapphire

2010-11-02T16:41:00.005Z

After Thorn we had Joules, Dillon & Sapphire. When we are naming our alpacas we tend to try & go with a theme so we can hopefully remember their names easily. So Joules mum Paula Rego has cria named after clothing labels last year she had MacKenzie & Joules this year. Dillon is Tansy's first cria so we have gone with Magic Roundabout!!!! hence Dillon. Sapphire is also Diamond's first cria so we have gone with gem stones. A completely mad system I know but it does work.

2010 Cria

2010-10-29T14:02:00.035+01:00

We have had 21 cria this year. I really need to keep my blog up to date so I am really going to try over the next couple of months.

Back in May we were getting ready for the National Show at Newark at which we received a lovely handful of rosettes & were really proud of our show team.

1st for Comet & Lex

3rd for Ani, Fergus & Murphy

4th for Dragonfly

An update on Thorn he has turned into a beautiful boy with cute markings on his face, always one of the first at the gate to see whose coming. Celeste is also lovely about to be weaned.

Here's a photo of some of the cria back in June - Persia, Nell, Dillon, Sapphire, Hope & in the background Ruby Tuesday.

Thorn

2010-05-24T20:14:00.006+01:00

Our next birth was unexpected as well! We were at Newark showground on the Thursday before the show when we got an emergency phone call from Martin's mum to say she had found a cria in the paddock. She had run for towels & done everything right but the wind was icy cold. We dashed home put him & his mum Coco in the shed with the lamp, he didn't look good, prem but only 3 days before 11 months. Called the vet who said we had done everything we could & we just needed to get his temperature higher to give him a chance, so we fed him bottle colostrum, warmed him further & had to leave him 4 hours later in mum in laws care so we could go & finish the penning for the show! Fed him until midnight & really didn't think he would make it through the night but he's still going strong & is a real character as you can see from his photo.

Found him today in the paddock with the yearling boys, happily bouncing around, still not sure how he got there, he always sits the other side the gate to them & not with his mum!

My Beautiful Prem - Celeste

2010-05-18T19:32:00.012+01:00

Celeste an hour ago
Celeste just after birth

It's been quite a while since I blogged, as the day after lambing for 3 weeks, 2 days at the Heart of England Fiesta & a day shearing 26 alpacas, we found ourselves the organisers of the National Show at Newark. But I think I need to blog in order so I will go back to 11th April when we had an unexpected arrival.

Celeste was a little too early & found herself being born in the wrong paddock. We had been meaning to move her mum Cosmic for a few days & she was definitely going to be moved that afternoon but Celeste decided to arrive in the morning at 319 days. We didn't see her for probably an hour & there was a very cold wind, so we had a cold but large cria & an upset mum. Cosmic did not settle when moved into the barn & we ended up with her in another barn with a lamp & fed Celeste from a bottle until midnight. Next morning all was well, Cosmic calm & Celeste feeding from her mum, a very happy ending.

Cosmic herself was a prem she was born at 307 days a very small cria but she had a strong will & was very clever. Martin milked her mum Plum & fed her every hour for the first 24 with a syringe. We fed her from the bottle pretending it was one of her mum's teats so she had to look for the milk in the right place & after 6 days she moved off the bottle on to her mum. Today she's a lovely big strong girl you'd never believe she was a prem.

Heart of England Spring Alpaca Fiesta

2010-04-28T13:21:00.003+01:00

We attended the Spring Alpaca Fiesta last weekend. As well as showing the alpacas we took scarves, shrugs & cardigans to show what can be made from our gorgeous alpaca fleeces.

There were some lovely alpacas in the ring & I am very happy to say that Ani our beautiful junior black girl came 4th & also won a Best of British rosette for having 2 British parents, Skylark her mum & R2D2 her dad. Comet had moved up classes from the last time he was in the ring in Thirsk & is now an Intermediate black male, he came away with a 2nd rosette, very pleased with him as he's such a handsome alpaca with a lovely nature.

We also sheared 26 alpacas yesterday so now I have lots of fleeces to clean to take to the mill for this years colours.

My 4th Designer

2010-04-21T10:35:00.004+01:00

My 4th designer is Nicole Feller-Johnson, her website is www.notwosnoflakes.etsy.com & we are just about to start to knit one of her beautiful patterns Katrina Ballerina Lace Layering Cardigan. It is going to knitted in Lana who is light fawn & this will make it a lovely very versatile soft coloured cardigan.

Very busy here at the moment lambing still going on, will have more photos of the lambs & our other very special arrival later in the week

Lambs in hiding

2010-04-16T19:45:00.004+01:00

Just a quick blog tonight, been busy all week lambing & another in labour at the moment. Thought I'd share this photo with you. Last week we only had 5 mums with their lambs in the nursery shed, I checked on them just as it was getting dark, counting them 2 were missing so I went into the shed to search & there they were in the middle of the feed ring fast asleep!

Goldie & her beautiful lamb Imogen

2010-04-05T15:10:00.004+01:00

Goldie is one of my favourite sheep, she was so tiny when she was born we didn't think she would survive. I got to hold her while an emergency pen with a light was rigged up for her & her mum Ruby. She was small all her first year but has now caught up with the rest of the girls & produced her first lovely lamb Imogen who is a carbon copy of Ruby & Goldie.

Mrs Sheep's Easter Lamb

2010-04-04T15:30:00.004+01:00

Our last Lincoln Longwool lamb of the year was born this morning, his mother is affectionately known as Mrs Sheep, she is large, pretty & always the one to watch when herding as she'll be going the other way! Our sheep all have Pedigree names & birth certificates & when we bought our first sheep we had an Eve & Eva, so Eva became Mrs Sheep. Our new lamb is just under a month later than Imogen who we expected to be last. All our lambs & their mothers are out in the fields now except Goldie & Imogen, Daphne, Inaya & her brother who have been keeping Mrs Sheep company.

Our Suffolk cross mums are now in their shed awaiting the arrival of their lambs who are due from Thursday onwards, busy couple of weeks I think.

My 3rd Designer

2010-04-03T14:20:00.006+01:00

My third designer is Siobhan from www.stitchology.co.uk. Last year we decided that we would like to have something a little different & I found Siobhan's gorgeous gloves. They are so different, quite holey but of course being alpaca amazingly warm. I have 2 pairs, 1 in Skylark of course & 1 in Logan who is black, wore the Logan ones to most of my events last year, when everyone else was complaining of cold hands I was warm. We decided to knit along & a short version, the long ones are the ones above, both sizes come in Logan, Lana, Kasper & Bond but we can of course knit them in any of the colours.

We also have a lovely shrug from Siobhan which is so light & pretty to wear & of course warm.

I have managed to get a place in the Etsy Showcase today & my featured items are the shrug above in Kasper & Lana & gloves in Logan.

My Designers part 2

2010-03-28T16:59:00.005+01:00

Here's a little about my second designer Jackie Erickson-Schweitzer or Jackie E-S as she is known. Last summer we decided to branch out from our usual dk to some beautiful thin 2ply wool. We picked 2 fleeces Leo who is light fawn and Bliss who is black for this process. Then with ideas of lovely lacy scarves, all we needed were some gorgeous patterns & after scouring the internet we found www.heartstringsfibrearts.com & Jackie E-S. Her patterns are beautiful just what we were looking for & we have knitted Riverene & Reversible Lace Ladder in Leo & Riverene in Bliss, we will have to wait for a photo of the Bliss scarf as it's in the next photo shoot in 2 weeks time.

Stamford High School Craft & Gift Fair

2010-03-19T21:06:00.003Z

Off to Stamford tomorrow for their Craft & Gift Fair, hoping the rain is going to stop. Really looking forward to it.

My Designers

2010-03-17T18:05:00.010Z

I have realised that I have not blogged about my designers & seeing as this year I have 3 more thought it about time I did.

The first designer I approached when we set out on turning our beautiful yarn into scarves was Joanne Seiff. This amazingly was just 2 years ago. I saw her Boa scarf & loved it so much asked if we could knit them with her permission. This was granted & we have knitted them in every colour, my favourite is Skylark as she is my first alpaca, I wear this to every event & it was lovely & warm in the snowy weather we have had this year. Joanne has since had 2 books published Fibre Gathering & Knit Green, I have a copy of both of course.

Isla

2010-03-09T17:37:00.002Z

This is Isla, she was the tiny triplet, the third out, first unfortunately didn't make it out alive, second Isla's brother was twice her size & then little Isla. She was ok to start with until her mother Ellie developed mastitis, her big brother is doing well but Isla began to look at little thin so we started to bottle feed her last week. It has taken all week but now when we go into the shed & hold up the bottle she comes running instead of us running round & round the shed trying to catch her! She even came up to Martin today looking for her bottle when he went in to fill up the trough with creep feed.

Our new additions

2010-03-02T20:37:00.004Z

We have been to Melton Market today & bought some more sheep! Not Lincoln Longwools this time. We have bought 36 'in lamb sheep' due to give birth after 8th April. Thought we had finished lambing for this year but now we have more lambs to look forward to & probably more sleepless nights! Here is a photo of them all eating their way around their new field.

A Butterfly in the snow

2010-02-28T19:49:00.004Z

Been meaning to post this photo of Butterfly all week, it was taken last Sunday in the snow. She is so sweet, her nickname is squeaky, when she was born & her mum Orch hummed to her she didn't hum back she made little squeaky noises & sometimes still does.

Lex's Fleece Rosette

2010-02-27T19:29:00.005Z

Just come back from an afternoon at the British Alpaca Futurity Show. We are quite used to showing alpacas or rather Martin, James & Jess are but we have never shown a fleece before. This year we decided to have a go & show Lex's fleece. Absolutely delighted to see that we had been given a 2nd Rosette.

First alpaca show of the season & it's great to see all the alpacas in the ring again, can't wait for the Heart of England Alpaca Fiesta at the end of April, when we will be showing.

Isabelle

2010-02-25T15:52:00.005Z

There will be no stopping me now I have learnt how to post photos on my blog. After spending an hour the other night pressing the image button & nothing happening I asked on the craftsforum for help. Everyone on there is so helpful so we tried again & it worked, think the computer was on a go slow.

Above is a photo of Isabelle, our prettiest & whitest lamb, she gets her looks from her mother Acacia who is adorable, we did expect at least twin lambs as Acacia was huge (think it's all fleece) but instead we have this beautiful litttle poppet.

My Lincoln Longwool lambs

2010-02-22T16:33:00.006Z

Oh dear how long is it since I bloggged.

Been so busy with the lambs just didn't get round to it, so here's an update of what we had & some photos.

This year the longwool herd letter is I.

Nell, Grace, Snowdrop,Ruby, Indigo1, Fulmeania, Daphne2 & Nikki all had single ram lambs, Indigo2, Gigi & Alder had twin boys. Alder had twin boys she's my favourite, so friendly always comes to be fussed, they're beautiful & in the photo above snuggled up to their mum.

Eve had Iona, Ellie had Isla & a boy, Edith had Iola & a boy, Gwyneth did so well & had 2 beautiful girls Isadora & Imelda & proved to be the perfect first time mum ever. Acacia had the prettiest girl Isabelle, Flocci had Ianthe, Daphne had Inaya & a boy & last but not least Goldie who we fought to keep alive 2 years ago had a beautiful girl Imogen, twice the size she was.

Happy New Year

2010-01-02T21:27:00.004Z

Happy New Year.

Today our shed is ready for some new arrivals & tomorrow our Lincoln Longwool sheep are coming back to the yard for lambing. Very excited about this, Nell is due on Monday, she is the first of 22 sheep we have this year to lamb. It snowed today so I can't wait to get the girls in the dry & warm. Some late nights over the next few weeks I think, sheep are not as considerate as alpacas & normally find the most inconvenient time to lamb! Nell has had 2 ram lambs Gideon & Frederick so I'm really hoping for a girl or twin girls would be even better. The Lincoln Longwool prefix letter is I for this year & we have a few names for consideration.

Yorkshire Alpaca Show

2009-12-10T21:29:00.004Z

In October we took 5 alpacas to the Yorkshire Alpaca Show in Thirsk. We had 3 alpacas who were just over 6 months old on the day of the event & had been weaned. Destiny - Mississippi's cria, Comet -Cosmic's cria & McKenzie - Paula's cria. They are all Van Dyck's cria & all black.

We have not showed alpacas so young before, ours are normally the oldest as they are born in April/May so we were unsure of how they would cope in the ring. We shouldn't have been, they were all very good, McKenzie stood perfectly still all the time as if she had been in the ring lots of times. Her reward was a lovely red 1st rosette & Destiny came second. Comet was next in the ring & he also was awarded a 1st rosette so we were very proud of them.

Our other 2 alpacas Lex & Fergus were in the same class Intermediate Brown males, they had been shorn quite late in the season as Fergus had been to Kenilworth Show, but they had managed to grow enough fleece to be entered. They came 3rd & 4th another very good result.

It was a lovely show, with it being later in the year we set off in the dark & came home in the dark.

Must try harder to blog

2009-12-07T19:29:00.004Z

I've not had a lot of time to blog recently & have decided over the next week to bring my blog up to date with what has happened since August!

Affinity is growing into a beautiful alpaca.

In September we were invited to have a stall at the MX-5 National Rally at Mallory Park. It was a beautiful sunny day & from our stall we could see the cars wizzing around the track. It was amazing to see rows & rows of MX 5's.

The day after we were at Stamford, an altogether different day weather wise, no sun. We had been invited to the Stamford Dog Show which was a lovely large event on the Town Meadow. To this one we took 4 of our alpacas, Leo, Fergus, Kasper & Robin. Leo had been requested as often featured in the Stamford Living Magazine there is a King Charles Spaniel called Leo. We had a lovely day, lots of talking about the alpacas, there was lots to see, as well as the dogs & alpacas, there were reptiles & owls.

Dream's cria & Elvis & Gethin

2009-08-13T22:55:00.003+01:00

Dream's cria has finally a name, he's called Affinity.

On Tuesday we put our 2 Lincoln Longwool rams in with the girls. Gethin our first born lamb has 5 girls in his field & Elvis has the rest.

Dream's new cria

2009-08-08T22:04:00.003+01:00

Well the cria didn't arrive on Thursday, he arrived at 1pm today, when we were in the field mating Hornblower to Shirley Bassey! He's a lovely, brown boy & unusually for us he hasn't a name at the moment.

Waiting for a Dreamy baby

2009-08-05T20:44:00.003+01:00

We are eagerly awaiting the arrival of the last cria of the summer, number 18. Dream is due on the 10th but tonight she is looking promising. It has been raining here all last night & this morning & all the alpacas apart from one have lovely clean coats. Dream on the other hand looks filthy, she has been rolling on the dirt pad which is normally lovely & dry but today is very muddy & she is covered in mud patches from the top of her neck to her toes! Her tail is slightly raised & she is humming so I am hoping for a cria in the morning, not too early, the last 2 births have been 8.15 & 7.45!

Claire, who was the last to give birth to Chance, has been mated to Hornblower tonight

Skylark in her boa scarf

2009-08-03T14:33:00.003+01:00

Today I have managed to upload a photo of Skylark modelling a boa scarf in her fleece. As Skylark is my alpaca, we each picked one, I chose this scarf to wear at the events we have attended over the past year. She is my best friend a month before she is due to give birth & then until she decides she is pregnant again & will stand & be cuddled & stroked. When she had Ani at the beginning of the month I sat on the floor at the side of her & angled Ani's head under to find the teat. Skylark spat yesterday so I think my cuddle time is over for another year.

I'm learning to blog

2009-08-02T22:15:00.000+01:00

Well here I am learning to blog. Today I've managed to attach a photo of Finn to my blog & become a follower of 2 sites. One Barnacre alpacas as I like to read Debbie's blog & Handm@de Cambridge as we are attending their event on 5th December. Would like to be able to attach this blog to my website but I'm sure that I will be able to look into this, this week. Would have liked to have a photo of Skylark modelling a boa scarf in her own fleece but it wouldn't upload this so I will have to try to add a photo later.